Studies in Psychopathy

The Secret History of The World by Laura Knight-Jadczyk

Discover the Secret History of the World - and how to get out alive!

 

Political Ponerology: A Science on The Nature of Evil adjusted for Political Purposes by Andrew M. Lobaczewski, Ph.D.
with commentary and additional quoted material
by Laura Knight-Jadczyk
The Psychopath: The Mask of Sanity Special Research by Quantum Future School
Discussion of Psychopathy Traits From The Mask of Sanity by Hervey Cleckley
A Basic Hypothesis of Psychopathy From The Mask of Sanity by Hervey Cleckley
Official Culture - A Natural State of Psychopathy? by Laura Knight-Jadczyk
The Inner Landscape of the Psychopath - Hervey Cleckley
"Stanley," a chapter from Hervey M. Cleckley's classic study of psychopaths, The Mask of Sanity
How Psychopaths View Their World
Retreat from Zaca - (3 files)

Dr. Strange, New Age Grifter or COINTELPRO?

"Dr. Strange" - Psychotherapist or Hacker and Thief?

Is Truth Defamatory?

Maynerd Most's Rebuttal
"I am the webmaster for Zecharia Sitchin..."
The Psychopath As Physician The Mask of Sanity - Hervey Cleckley - Excerpts
The Bad Seed: The Fledgling Psychopath
Sam Vaknin Revisited
An In-Depth Look At Where Sam Vaknin is Leading NPD
The Ambassador of Narcissism: An Interview with Sam Vaknin
A Soul With No Footprints
Antisocial Personality, Sociopathy, and Psychopathy
Narcissism
Anatomy of Malignant Narcissim
The Socially Adept Psychopath
The Origins of Violence: Is Psychopathy an Adaptation?
Bush isn't a moron, he's a cunning sociopath
The Partial Psychopath
Adventures with Cassiopaea by Laura Knight-Jadczyk
Ark and Laura's Correspondence 1997 (8 files) Supplement to Adventures
Reader's Comments on Adventures With Cassiopaea
Mirror, Mirror On The Wall - Quantum Future School
Alvin Wiley's Letter
Alvin Wiley's subsequent letters to the public

the "Alvin Wiley" correspondence (10 files)

Letters from Readers About Jay Weidner
Dear Webmaster: - (2 files)
What is Laura Hiding? The Cassiopaeans Answer

Reader's Comments on "Is Laura Hiding Something?"

Transcript of direct channeling via "Frank Scott" on computer, July 22, 1994
Statement by Terry and Jan Rodemerk
Maynerd Most's post to the Cassiopaea Guestbook
Death Threat?
Organic Portals: The Other Race Quantum Future School (2 files)
Montalk.net Disclaimer
Vincent Bridges, Jay Weidner: Magickal Mystery Tour Scam
Is Cassiopaea a Cult?
The French Connection by Laura Knight-Jadczyk Censored!
Mask of Sanity by Hervey Cleckley PDF - book download FREE!
 
Kubrick's Psychopaths Society and Human Nature in the Films of Stanley Kubrick
 
The common problem with psychopaths... “Is they don’t see a problem with their behavior.”
Psychopath Support Group
 
“Non-victims can’t understand this, but the psychopath really does suck the life out of a caring person. I try to think of them now as a slimy suckerfish right out of the swamp, vacuum-lips out and prowling for someone vibrant and attractive to con and eviscerate.”
 

If you are a good person you will meet many evil people in your life, you need to recognize them and their actions. More importantly you need to recognize which evil behaviors you have been conned into accepting as reasonable and to reject those behaviors - both in yourself and in others - as unacceptable.

The English language has a variety of terms for psychopaths, of which "bastard" is perhaps the most polite. They have always been with us, and despite their corrosiveness and rejection of social mores, they show no signs of going away.

 
Think you can spot one? Think again. In general, psychopaths aren’t the product of broken homes or the casualties of a materialistic society. Rather they come from all walks of life and there is little evidence that their upbringing affects them.
 
Most of the two million psychopaths in North America aren’t murderers. They’re our friends, lovers and co-workers. They’re outgoing and persuasive, dazzling you with charm and flattery. Often you aren’t even aware they’ve taken you for a ride – until it’s too late.
 
The problem of plausible lies is the most serious problem facing humanity today....Most good people are only aware of the least intelligent part of the evil distribution; those are the people who are obviously evil: criminals. The normal and intelligent ends of the evil distribution totally escape most good people's understanding.
 

Only as of late, with all the Enron scandals and related crimes, people are waking up to the fact that the most dangerous psychopath of all is the educated, socially adept psychopath, in fact, Dr. Hare recently said that he would probably be able to find many psychopaths involved in the stockmarket. It is time for American to "wake up" says Dr. Wolman, because we are being threatened by a serious epidemic of psychopathy.

The Psychopathic or Sociopathic Personality

Based on twenty-five years of groundbreaking research, WITHOUT CONSCIENCE is a fascinating journey into the minds of these dangerous individuals. Are they born unable to feel empathy, or are they created by circumstance? How and why do they get away with cheating, conning, and murdering? Are they mad or simply bad? In what Dr. Hare calls our "camouflage society," how can we recognize and steer clear of these predatory people?

WITHOUT CONSCIENCE explores their shocking patterns- and exposes one of the most frightening, often-hidden social problems affecting our lives today.

 

The Psychopath is much more successful than you and I because he is not hemmed in by all sorts of impediments or worries.

A discussion with Adolf Guggenbuhl-Craig & James Hillman

 
“We fall prey to the seduction, it is irresistible. Then the nightmare of horror begins. The shabby treatment, the avoidance. I couldn’t believe it was happening to me. He had been so sincere, so kind. It was Jekyl and Hyde.”
 
“They go for the strongest and the best, but preferably those who are something of rebels within the group...the LEAST controllable. Because if they can crush them, they crush most of the rest at the same time. If they start at the bottom, with the weakest, it’s a long way to work their way up…The ideal target is therefore, strong, smart, rebellious and vulnerable through previous abuse.”
 
“A favored technique is to debilitate your identity [personally, I hate the term self-esteem] by levelling false accusations and/or questioning your honesty, fidelity, trustworthiness, your “true” motivations, your “real” character, your sanity and judgement.”
 
“They are absolutely the world’s best manipulators, liars, and fabricators of truth. They do so convincingly because they believe their own lies. After all their life is nothing but a lie, a sham, how can we possibly assume they know anything different.”
 
“Others around me would get so tired of the whole thing and insinuate that I was perpetuating things. All I wanted was for him to leave me alone. Part of the hurt and damage was done because others could but would not see what was actually happening. He would always try to ingratiate himself to others it was sickening. Usually psychopaths put on the nicest act, and you look like the harpy and bitch, and so everyone takes their side, it is a horror story, a psychopath can be very charming, and manipulative and manipulate the smartest of people.”
 
“My biggest frustration and source of anger, is at those who have refused to take a stand when they see the abuse . No matter how outrageous his behavior others often stood by and inadvertently fuelled his grandiosity and denial... although denial is too mild a word for it.
 
“If a psychopath throws the “bad childhood” stuff at you, keep in mind he might be trying to get sympathy and make an excuse for his atrocious behavior towards you and/or others. If we let these people make us feel sorry for them, we ultimately end up in the submissive position again...just what they want. I can “pity” them yes...but I refuse to shed another tear over the tragedies suffered by who is now, only a shell of a person.”
 

Regarding a psychopath: Considering a longitudinal section of his life ...it is hard to avoid the conclusion that here is the product of true madness - of madness in a sense quite as real as that conveyed to the imaginative layman by the terrible word lunatic.

With the further consideration that all this skein of apparent madness has been woven by a person of (technically) unimpaired and superior intellectual powers and universally regarded as sane, the surmise intrudes that we are confronted by a serious and unusual type of genuine abnormality.

Not merely a surmise but a strong conviction may arise that this apparent sanity is, in some important respects, a sanity in name only. We find instead a spectacle that suggests madness in excelsis, despite the absence of all those symptoms that enable us, in some degree, to account for irrational conduct in the psychotic.

Only very slowly and by a complex estimation or judgment based on multitudinous small impressions does the conviction come upon us that, despite these intact rational processes, these normal emotional affirmations, and their consistent application in all directions, we are dealing here not with a complete man at all but with something that suggests a subtly constructed reflex machine which can mimic the human personality perfectly.

So perfect is this reproduction of a whole and normal man that no one who examines him in a clinical setting can point out in scientific or objective terms why, or how, he is not real. And yet we eventually come to know or feel we know that reality, in the sense of full, healthy experiencing of life, is not here.

 

 
“Leaving is hard because of all that goes along with the going. It is not just the person you have to give up but your hopes and dreams and fantasies. It only happened for me in increments and I cried UNCLE often thinking if I gave it one more go I’d break through. It wasn’t until I really knew that no matter what I said or did or didn’t do this person could never love me or anyone.”
 
“The fantasy was exactly that, a FANTASY, that he created for himself, and presented to me as reality. My head said the fantasy wasn’t valid. I kept reminding myself: if the fantasy was real, I wouldn’t be treated like dirt, and feel like shit!”
 
“I have finally come to the conclusion that they cannot change, so all we can do is to refuse to participate in their sick drama and leave the stage.”
 

Cleckley: [T]he familiar tendency to disintegrate, against which life evolves, may be regarded as fundamental and comparable to gravity. The climbing man or animal must use force and purpose to ascend or to maintain himself at a given height. [...] Whether regression occurs primarily through something like gravity or through impulses more self-contained, the backward movement (or ebbing) is likely to prompt many sorts of secondary reactions, including behavior not adapted for ordinary human purposes but instead, for functioning in the other direction. The modes of such reactivity may vary, may fall into complex patterns, and may seek elaborate expression. [...] People with all the outer mechanisms of adaptation intact might, one would think, regress more complexly. [...] In a movement (or gravitational drift) from levels where life is vigorous and full to those where it is less so, the tactics of withdrawal predominate. [...] The psychopath as we conceive of him in such an interpretation seems to justify the high estimate of his technical abilities as we see them expressed in reverse movement.

Organic Portals: The Answer to Psychopathy?

 
"Alien reaction machines" in human form describes individuals with Anti-Social Personality Disorder (APD), Sociopaths, and Psychopaths.
 
The material presented in the linked articles does not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the editors. Research on your own and if you can validate any of the articles, or if you discover deception and/or an obvious agenda, we will appreciate if you drop us a line! We often post such comments along with the article synopses for the benefit of other readers. As always, Caveat Lector!
 
 

The Bridges - Jadczyk Correspondence

 

From:                    Laura Knight-Jadczyk <lark2@ozline.net>

To:                        Vincent & Darlene <abooks@ac.net>

Subject:                $64,000 questions....

Send reply to:        lark2@ozline.net

Date sent:             Fri, 14 May 1999 22:35:18 -0400

 

On 13 May 99, at 22:06, Vincent & Darlene wrote:

 

> 4) Cassiopaea and the Cassiopaeans - OK, the $64,000 question: Do your

> sources consider themselves to be ET intelleigences from Cassiopaea, or is

> Cassiopaea merely a symbolic call sign for the energy? THIS IS VERY

> IMPORTANT! Cassiopaea as a symbol carries a very significant energy; it is

> the M or W in the sky and therefore is sort of a cosmic icon for the whole

> mystery. Is it possible that you are talking to the head masters

> themselves, here on earth? <<On several occasions you have described

> Cassiopaea or the

>    Cassiopaeans, the unified thought form light beings that

>    transmit through Cassiopaea, as being the 'front line of

>    the universe's system of natural balance.'>> Have they clarified this

> any further?

 

It's kind of a complex subject, this thing about the "oncoming wave" and all

that.  I am using the search term "wave" and there are LOTS of occurrences in

the files.  This will only be a part, and to keep the info in context, I am

having to grab additional text, but it makes a funny mixture of all kinds of

odd things. 

 

But, to start this is funny:

06-03-95

 

Q: (L) Is this particular location beneficial to my residence

   here?

A: Subjective.

Q: (L) Is it particularly beneficial in terms of this kind of

   work?

A: Can be.

Q: (J) It is obviously not detrimental.  (T) Can it be

   detrimental?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) In what way?  (J) Yes, how is it detrimental?  A:

64000 dollar question!

Q: (T) Now, since we hit the 64,000 dollar question, are you

   going to give us the 64,000 dollar answer?  (L) Why could

   it be detrimental?  Is it because it could be detrimental

   if a person is following the STO pathway?

A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Could it be detrimental to one following the STS

   pathway?

A: Maybe.

Q: (T) Okay, the energy flow pattern can be detrimental or

   beneficial.  It's just energy, not positive or negative.

A: This is more complex than your queries allow.

Q: (L) In other words, our questions are not complex enough

   to get the answer?

A: You are "rushing it"

**********************

 

Q: (L) What is causing the earth changes?

A: Electromagnetic wave changes.

Q: (L) Can you be more specific?

A: Gap in surge heliographic field.

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Q: (L) Is there a large fleet of space-ships riding a wave,

   so to speak, approaching our planet?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Where are these ships from?

A: Zeta Reticuli.

Q: (L) When will they arrive?

A: 1 month to 18 years.

Q: (L) How can there be such a vast discrepancy in the time?

A: This is such a huge fleet that space/time warping is

   irregular and difficult to determine as you measure time.

Q: (L) Are these craft riding a "wave" of some sort?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many planets are in our solar system?

A: 12

Q: (L) Could you tell us the names of all the planets, their

   distances from the sun, the chemical composition, and the

   diameter.

A: Mercury=Opatanar, 36 million miles from Sun; 3000 mi

   diameter.

   Venus=Pemuntar, 67 million miles from Sun; 7,500 mi.

   diameter.

   Earth=Saras, 93 million miles from Sun; 7,900 mi. dia.

   Mars=Masar, 141,500,000 miles from Sun; 4,200 mi. dia.

   Jupiter=Yontar, 483,400,000 miles from Sun; 88,700 dia.

   Saturn=Zendar, 886,700,000 miles from Sun; 74,500 dia.

   Uranus=Lonoponor, 1,782,700,000 miles from Sun; 31,566

   diameter.

   Neptune=Jinoar, 2,794,300,000 miles from Sun; 30,199 dia.

   Pluto=Opikimanaras, 3,666,100,000 miles from Sun; 1,864

   dia.

   NI=Montonanas, 570,000,000,000 miles from Sun; solid

   matter; 7000 miles dia.

   NII=Suvurutarcar, 830,000,000,000 miles from Sun; 18000

   miles diameter; hydrogen, ammonia.

   NIII=Bikalamanar, 1,600,000,000,000 miles from Sun; 46000

   miles diameter; hydrogen, ammonia.

 

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Q: (L) Assuming there is a fleet of spacecraft riding a wave,

   and approaching from the vicinity of Zeta Reticuli, what

   does it mean to say that the space time warp is indefinite

   in terms of arrival?  Why is this? Please specify.

A: Mass affects electromagnetic transfer within gravity wave.

Q: (L) In other words, if there is a large mass you are

   trying to transfer, is the problem partly because the mass

   itself spreads out over such a large area of space/time

   and must be transferred in stages or something along that

   line?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Can you help us out anymore here?

A: Mass affects time cycle: small equal short cycle; large

   or dense equals long cycle.

************************************************

 

Q: We would like to know what is the origin of the Gypsies.

A: Genes spliced.  Slaves of dark forces.

Q: Who are these dark forces?

A: Same.

Q: As what?

A: Brotherhood.

Q: Does this brotherhood consist of Lizzies and various

   humans?

A: Yes.

Q: If the Gypsies were gene spliced, who were they gene

   spliced with?

A: Alien race, humanoid, and Atlantean drone workers.

Q: What were Atlantean drone workers?

A: Slave people controlled by crystal.

Q: Why do the Gypsies remain so cohesive?  Is that

   genetically programed?

A: Yes.  And mind control.

Q: There are legends of half human creatures, minotaurs,

   centaurs, etc.  Were any of these creatures real?

A: Experiments known as beasts in Atlantis.  V___ is part

   Gypsy.  Hiding this.

Q: Does she know it?

A: Some.

Q: Who built the city of Baalbek?

A: Antereans and early Sumerians.  We meant Atlanteans.  [Who

   are the Antereans]

Q: What is the reason for the enormous proportions of this

   building?

A: Giants.

Q: Who were the giants?

A: Genetic effort to recreate Nephalim.

Q: Did the Atlanteans and Sumerians succeed in recreating the

   Nephilim?

A: No.

Q: Why did they build this enormous city?

A: Retarded subjects.

Q: The results of their efforts were retarded?

A: Yes.

Q: Why did they build the enormous city?

A: In anticipation of success.

Q: Why would someone come along and build a city of the

   proportions of Baalbek in anticipation of a genetic

   project that could take many years to accomplish.

A: Project took only three years.  Speeded up growth cycle

   using nuclear hormonal replication procedure. Why failed.

Q: That's why it failed, because of the speeded up growth?

A: Did not take properly.

Q: What technical means did they use to cut the stones and

   transport them?

A: Sound wave focusing.

Q: What happened to interrupt or halt the building of this

   city?

A: Venus first appearance and pass.

Q: What year was this project brought to a halt?

A: 3218 B.C.

Q: Who built the city of Mohenjo-Daro?

A: Lizards directly. Coatzlmundi legend ties in to this

   directly look at illustrations on stones now.

Q: Who is Coatzlmundi?

A: Other deity of the Lizards worshipped by the Atlanteans

   and their descendants because of the direct contact with

   humans for 1000 years.

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Q: (L) Does the interaction between the spirit/soul and the

   body physical produce some by-product that is desirable to

   other beings?

A: Well, all things have desirable consequences as well as

   undesirable consequences, but it must also be mentioned

   here that everything that exists in all realms of the

   universe can experience existence in one of only two ways.

   That would be defined as a long wave cycle and a short

   wave cycle.  Going back to your previous question about

   why humans are "entrapped" in physical existence, which,

   of course, is voluntary and chosen, this was due to the

   desire to change from the long wave cycle experience of

   completely what you would call ethereal or spiritual

   existence, to the short wave cycle of what you call

   physical existence.  The difference is that a long wave

   cycle involves only very gradual change in evolution in a

   cyclical manner.  Whereas a short wave cycle involves a

   duality.  And this is the case with souls in physical

   bodies as is experienced on this earth plane because the

   soul experiences an ethereal state for half the cycle and

   a physical state for the other half of the cycle.  While

   these halves are not measured in time the way you measure

   time, the totality of experience is equal in each half.

   The necessity to form the short wave cycle was brought

   about through nature through the natural bounds of the

   universe when the group mind of souls chose to experience

   physicality as opposed to a completely ethereal existence.

Q: (L) Does this interaction produce a by-product?

A: It produces equal by-products of a positive and negative

   nature.

Q: (L) And what are these by-products?

A: Which one first?

Q: (L) Positive.

A: Positive by-product is an increase in relative energy

   which speeds up the learning process of the soul and all

   of it's one dimensional and two dimensional interactive

   partners.  In other words, flora and fauna, minerals, etc.

   All experience growth and movement towards reunion at a

   faster rate on the cycle through this short wave cycle

   physical/ethereal transfer.  Of a negative nature,  it

   also produces many negative experiences for these very

   same entities which otherwise would not exist because

   being of a first level and second level nature, flora and

   fauna would ordinarily experience a long term or long wave

   cycle on the physical plane as opposed to a short wave

   cycle physical and ethereal, as they do now because of

   their interaction with the human species in its short wave

   ethereal/physical cycle.

Q: (L) The comment was made at one point that certain alien

   beings abduct humans and subject them to cruel and

   torturous deaths in order to create "maximum energy

   transfer."  In this respect, what is this maximum energy

   transfer that occurs during a long, slow, torturous dying

   process?

A: Extreme fear and anxiety builds up fear/anxiety energy

   which is of a negative nature which fuels the beings that

   you speak of in that they draw from that and produce a

   sort of a fueling energy which keeps them going as one of

   their forms of nourishment based on their metabolic

   structure.

Q: (L) What is their metabolic structure?

A: That is very complex and very difficult to describe

   because it is on the fourth level of density which you do

   not understand.  But, part of their reason for existence

   on the fourth level is their ability to nourish themselves

   both through ethereal methods and through physical

   methods.  Therefore, this energy transfer would represent

   the ethereal method of nourishment and other means are

   achieved physically.

Q: (L) What other means?

A: Well, the drinking of blood and blood by-products would be

   an example of that.

Q: (L) Do they do that?

A: Yes, but the manner of intake is different than what you

   may be thinking.  It is done through pores.

Q: (L) In what manner?

A: Bathing and then absorbing the necessary products and then

   disposing of the remaining product.

**********************************************

 

Q: (L) Is the amnesia related to UFO abductions deliberately

   induced or is it a product of the mind's inability to deal

   with the event?

A: It is an equal commingling of both.

Q: (L) The part that is deliberately induced, how is that

   accomplished?

A: By using a cosmic energy flow to influence memory function

   through a combination of spiritual and chemical

   interaction.

Q: (L) Can you be more specific?

A: Being more specific would be in another way less specific,

   but a good way to put it is altering the flow of

   electromagnetic energy in the brain.  Electromagnetic

   energy, electromagnetism, is the life force that exists

   within all that evolves through long wave or short wave

   cycles.

Q: (L) Going back to the beings that absorb nutrients through

   their pores, what kind of beings are they?

A: Both those that you describe as the Lizard Beings and

   those you describe as the Grays.  This is necessary for

   their survival in each case.  Even though the Grays are

   not natural parts of the short wave cycle, but rather an

   artificial creation by the Lizard Beings, but nevertheless

   they mimic the nourishment functions.

Q: (L) Since they are artificially created by the Lizard

   beings, does this mean they have no souls?

A: That's correct.

Q: (L) How do they function?  Are they like robots?

A: They function by interaction with the souls of the Lizard

   beings.  This technology is extremely far in advance of

   that with which you are familiar, but the Gray beings are

   not only built and designed artificially, but also

   function as a projection mentally and psychically of the

   Lizard beings.  They are like four dimensional probes.

Q: (L) As four dimensional probes, what are their

capabilities?  A: They have all the same capabilities of the

Lizard beings except for the fact that their physical

appearance is entirely different and they do not have souls

of their

   own and also their biological structure is internally

   different.  But, their functioning is the same and in

   order to remain as projection beings they also must absorb

   nutrients in the same fashion both spiritually and

   physically as the Lizard beings do.  The reason the

   negative energy is necessary fuel is that the Lizard

   beings and the Grays are both living in the fourth level

   of density, which is the highest level of density one can

   exist in serving only self as these entities do.  So,

   therefore, they must absorb negative energy because the

   fourth level of density is the highest example of self

   service which is a negative thought pattern.  The fourth

   level of density is a progression from the third level of

   density.  With each progression upward in density level,

   the existence for the individual conscious entity becomes

   less difficult.  So, therefore, the fourth level of

   density is less difficult to exist in that the third, the

   third is less difficult than the second and so on.  It

   puts less strain on the soul energy.  Therefore, beings

   existing on the fourth level of density can draw from

   beings existing on the third level of density in terms of

   absorption of negative soul energy.  Likewise, beings on

   the third level of density can draw from beings on the

   second level of density, though this type of drawing is

   not as necessary but is done.  This is why human beings

   existing on the third level frequently cause pain and

   suffering to those of the animal kingdom who exist on the

   second level of density because you are drawing negative

   soul energy as beings who primarily serve self, as you do,

   from those on the second level, and on the first, and so

   on.  Now, as you advance to the fourth level of density

   which is coming up for you, you must now make a choice as

   to whether to progress to service to others or to remain

   at the level of service to self.  This will be the

   decision which will take quite some time for you to adjust

   to.  This is what is referred to as the "thousand year

   period."  This is the period as measured in your calendar

   terms that will determine whether or not you will advance

   to service to others or remain at the level of service to

   self.  And those who are described as the Lizards have

   chosen to firmly lock themselves into service to self.

   And, since they are at the highest level of density where

   this is possible, they must continually draw large amounts

   of negative energy from those at the third level, second

   level, and so on, which is why they do what they do.  This

   also explains why their race is dying, because they have

   not been able to learn for themselves how to remove

   themselves from this particular form of expression to

   that of service to others.  And, since they have such, as

   you would measure it, a long period of time, remained at

   this level and, in fact, become firmly entrenched in it,

   and, in fact, have increased themselves in it, this is why

   they are dying and desperately trying to take as much

   energy from you as possible and also to recreate their

   race metabolically.

Q: (L) Well, if we are sources of food and labor for them,

   why don't they just breed us in pens on their own planet?

A: They do.

Q: (L) Well, since there is so many of us here, why don't

   they just move in and take over?

A: That is their intention.  That has been their intention

   for quite some time.  They have been traveling back and

   forth through time as you know it, to set things up so

   that they can absorb a maximum amount of negative energy

   with the transference from third level to fourth level

   that this planet is going to experience, in the hopes that

   they can overtake you on the fourth level and thereby

   accomplish several things. 1: retaining their race as a

   viable species; 2: increasing their numbers; 3: increasing

   their power; 4: expanding their race throughout the realm

   of fourth density.  To do all of this they have been

   interfering with events for what you would measure on your

   calendar as approximately 74 thousand years.  And they

   have been doing so in a completely still state of space

   time traveling backward and forward at will during this

   work.  Interestingly enough, though, all of this will

   fail.

Q: (L) How can you be so sure it will fail?

A: Because we see it.  We are able to see all, not just what

   we want to see.  Their failing is that they see only what

   they want to see.  In other words, it's the highest

   manifestation possible of that which you would refer to as

   wishful thinking.  And, wishful thinking represented on

   the fourth level of density becomes reality for that

   level.  You know how you wishfully think?  Well, it isn't

   quite reality for you because you are on the third level,

   but if you are on the fourth level and you were to perform

   the same function, it would indeed be your awareness of

   reality.  Therefore they cannot see what we can see since

   we serve others as opposed to self, and since we are on

   sixth level, we can see all that is at all points as is,

   not as we would want it to be.

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Q: (L) Who built Stonehenge?

A: Druids.

Q: (L) Who were the Druids?

A: Early Aryan group.

Q: (L) How did they move the stones and set them up?

A: Sound wave focusing; try it yourself; coral castle.

Q: (L) Who taught the Druids to use the sound waves?

A: They knew; handed down.

Q: (L) When was Stonehenge built?

A: 6000 approx. B.C.

Q: (L) What was Stonehenge built to do or be used for?

A: Energy director.

Q: (L) What was this energy to be directed to do?

A: All things.

Q: (L) Was the energy to be directed outward or inward to the

   center?

A: Both.

Q: (L) Are you suggesting we should get together and try to

   move something with sound?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does this sound come from our bodies?

A: Learn.  Laura will find answer through discovery.

Q: (L) It says in the Caballah that when a group meets

   regularly with intent and purpose to acquire spiritual

   awareness, that they create what is called a vessel.  Is

   this what we have done these past three years?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Now, since we have created this vessel, into which

   this information can flow, can we add other people to the

   use and benefits of this vessel?

A: Maybe.

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Q: (L) Who carved the stone heads on Easter Island?

A: Lemurian descendants.

Q: (L) The natives say the stones walked into position.  Is

   this true?

A: No.

Q: (L) Well, how?

A: Tonal vibration.

Q: (L) And what did these stones represent?

A: Nephalim.

Q: (L) Is this what the Nephilim looked like?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Does that mean that the Nephilim were present in

Lemuria?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Where was Lemuria located?

A: Pacific off South America.

Q: (L) So when the Easter Island natives talk about their

   ancestors they are talking about people who came from the

   direction of South America?

A: No.  Right near all around. Easter Island is remnant of

   Lemuria.

Q: (L) What happened to Lemuria?

A: Submerged close to time you refer to as Fall of Eden,

   approximately.

Q: (L) Well if the Nephilim were brought here 9 to 12

   thousand years ago...

A: Last visit.  Have been here 5 times.  Will return.

Q: (L) The Nephilim are going to return?  Where do the

   Nephilim currently live?

A: Orion.

Q: (L) They live in the constellation Orion?  Where is their

   planet?

A: Don't have one.  In transit.

Q: (L) The whole dadgum bunch is in transit?

A: Three vehicles.

Q: (L) How many Nephilim does each vehicle hold?

A: About 12 million.

Q: (L) Are they coming to help us?

A: No.  Wave comet cluster all using same energy.

Q: (L) Using same energy to what?

A: Pass through space\time.

Q: (L) Does this mean that without this comet cluster they

   cannot pass through space/time?

A: No.  Slower. message follows here.  Quiet for  one moment

   please: From now on when word to follow is in quotes we

   will designate as follows: mark then word then mark. Now,

   "slower." [We installed quote marks on the board after

   this.  From this point on, when words in the Cassiopaean

   responses are in quotes, it is because they have so

   designated.]

Q: (L) So, it is slower for them to come here without this

   wave.  Where is the wave coming from?

A: Follows cluster.

Q: (L) It follows the cluster.  What does this wave consist

of?

A: Realm border.

Q: (L) Does the realm border wave follow the comet cluster in

   a permanent way?

A: No.

Q: (L) Is the realm border loosely associated with the comet

   cluster each time it comes?

A: No. Realm border  follows  all emcompassing energy reality

   change; realm border will follow this cluster passage and

   has others but not most.

Q: (L) Is this realm border a dimensional boundary?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, this realm border, do dimensions...

A: Pulsating realms.  Fluctuating realms.

Q: (L) Is our realm fluctuating or pulsating?

A: No.

Q: (L) But this other realm does?

A: No.

Q: (L) What fluctuates?

A: Residence.

Q: (L) Whatever is in that realm fluctuates?

A: No. Your planet fluctuates between realms.

Q: (L) How often does this fluctuation occur?

A: About every 309,000 years.

Q: (L) In other words we can expect to be in 4th density for

   about 300,000 years?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does this mean that the Edenic state existed for about

   300.000 years before the "Fall?"

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Now, you say these Nephilim are coming and there is

   about 36 million of them, correct?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And they are the enforcers of the Grays and Lizzies,

   is that correct?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, let's sit back and watch the show! You are

   saying that the planet fluctuates...

A: No, realms do planet merely occupies realm.

Q: (L) What is the source in space/time of this other realm?

A: Too complex.

Q: (L) What is the generative source?

A: Part of grand cycle.

Q: (L) Is this the cycle understood by the Mayans?

A: They understood partially.

Q: (L) Their calendar extends to 2012... is that accurate as

   to the time of the realm border change?

A: Close.  Still indefinite as you measure time.  Lizzies

   hoping to rule you in 4th density.  Closer to 18 years.

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: (L) Recently I read an article about bursts of gamma rays

   in the upper atmosphere.  What are these bursts of gamma

   rays?

A: Increasing energy with approach of wave.

Q: (L) So, these bursts of gamma rays are not effects of

   battling UFOs in other dimensions?

A: No.

Q: (L) Why are there so many crop circles in Britain?

A: Window. Why Stonehenge was built there.

Q: (L) What is the relationship between UFOs and clouds?

A: Can create clouds or appear as clouds but no other

   relationship.

Q: (L) What is ball lightning?

A: Electromagnetic spark.  Pass from 4th to 3rd density.

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Q: (L) On a number of occasions we talked about the quorum

   and the Illuminati.  They both seem to be the highest

   levels of secret organizations.  What is their

   relationship to each other?

A: Please put new music on; this a little disruptive.

   [Creation Chant]

Q: (L) How is this? [Celtic harp]

A: Better.

Q: (L) You don't like the Native American stuff?

A: It is okay but disruptive to vibrations.

Q: (L) Back to the quorum and illuminati.

A: Quorum mostly alien; illuminati mostly human.

Q: (L) Well, the quorum has been described...

A: Meet; two halves of whole.

Q: (L) Well the quorum seems to be described as being in

   touch with the Cassiopaeans, that is, yourselves, which

   you have described as beneficial beings, is this correct?

A: Close.

Q: (L) The illuminati has been described as being behind or

   with the brotherhood which has been described as being in

   connection with the Lizard beings...

A: Close.  But not that simple.

Q: (L) Well, if the quorum is the good guys and the

   illuminati is the bad guys, and they both are at the high

   levels of Freemasonry, what is the story here?

A: Picture a circle or cycle first now then contemplate for

   a moment before follow up.

Q: (L) Okay, I am contemplating a cycling circle.

A: Now, two halves representing positive and negative. Two

   halves.

Q: (L) Well, what I am getting out of that is the two halves

   and both sides are playing with the human race.  Is that

   it?  A: No. This is complicated but if you can learn and

   understand, it will be a super revelation.

Q: (L) Well, go ahead and explain.

A: Ask step by step.

Q: (L) Why do we so often have to ask things step by step?

A: In order to absorb the information.

Q: (L) The quorum is described as the good guys.  The

   illuminati is described as bad guys.  And yet, they are

   both Masonic.  When a person in the Masonic organization

   reaches the higher levels, are there individuals at the

   higher levels recruiting masons to one side or the other?

A: First, not exactly one side or another.

Q: (L) I am beginning to not understand something here

   because if the Lizzies...

A: Unblock.

Q: (L) I don't have a block here.  If the brotherhood AKA

   illuminati AKA Lizzies AKA beast are the ones who are

   going to do detrimental things to this planet, how are

   they related or connected to the quorum which is in touch

   with...

A: This will take time to explain be patient it will be

   worth it.

Q: (L) Well, are you going to explain it right now?

A: Ask step by step.

Q: (L) Okay. What is the nature of evil?

A: Blend.

Q: (L) Are the Lizzies what we would consider to be evil?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are the Cassiopaeans what we would consider to be

   good?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Yet, do the Cassiopaeans use and manipulate the

   Lizzies to accomplish certain things?

A: No.

Q: (L) The Lizzies work independently and in opposition to

   the Cassiopaeans?

A: Independently, not in opposition.

Q: (L) Well then, is there somebody over and above this whole

   project...

A: We serve others therefore there is no opposition.  Careful

   now. Step by step.  If you do not fully understand answer

   ask another.

Q: (L) Part of a whole.  Part of a circle.

A: Blend.

Q: (L) Does this mean...

A: Picture a blending colored circle image.

Q: (L) Are you saying that at some levels the two halves

   overlap?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Are you saying that some of the Quorum are good guys

   and bad guys and the same for the Illuminati because the

   two are on opposing  sides of the circle but at the point

   of blending one is weighted more to one side and the other

   to the other side?  And these organizations are where the

   interactions come together?

A: Closer.

Q: (L) Let's leave it for the time being.

A: No. Now please.

Q: (L) Okay. So it is a blending.  Does it have something to

   do with ... in your case service to others means that you

   even serve those who serve self, is that correct?

A: Yes; we serve you and the Lizards have programed your race

   to self service remember.

Q: (L) Well, I am down a notch or two.  So, I am still a

   service to self individual to some extent, is that

   correct?

A: But moving slowly toward service to others.  Not all

   humans are.

Q: (L) Does this mean that when people who are members of the

   quorum or illuminati call for information or help, that

   you, because of your service to others orientation are

   obliged to answer whoever calls?

A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) What is the no part.

A: If vibrational frequencies are out of pattern we do not

   connect.

Q: (L) Is the work of the Lizzies part of an overall grand

   plan or design?

A: All is.

Q: (L) Let's go on.  I am depressed because you guys told me

   I was a bad person.

A: You are not a bad person.

Q: (L) Well, I am feeling pretty crummy right now.

A: Lizzies induced.

Q: (L) You mean my crummy feelings are Lizzie induced?

A: As always.

Q: (L) Well I am feeling crummy because you guys let me know

   that I am in the same sinking boat as the rest of the poor

   slobs on this miserable planet.  I was working pretty hard

   to get out of the boat.

A: Silliness; you're in your own boat.

Q: (L) I would like to know where Dr. Usui got the Reiki

   symbols?

A: Must answer question.

Q: (L) What question?  The quorum and illuminati question?

A: You will feel ecstasy once answered.

Q: (L) Okay. A blending.  Yet two halves.

A: Of a circle.

Q: (L) Who designed this circle?

A: Natural frequency wave.  Some near conjunction blend both

   service patterns and each "camp" to create perfect

   balance.

Q: (L) Okay, so the Illuminati are the higher level on the

   pathway of service to self and somehow, by reaching these

   higher levels may have come to realizations or frequencies

   which have caused their position to be modified or blended

   to where service to self becomes or incorporates or moves

   them to service to others realizations, is this correct?

A: Continue.

Q: (L) Okay, the ones in the quorum are those who are focused

   on service to others and they, in their pathway of service

   to others begin to understand that some service to self is

   service to others.

A: Close.

Q: (L) And the whole idea is to blend both pathways no matter

   which direction you come to it from?

A: Service to others provides the perfect balance of those

   two realities; service to self is the diametrical opposite

   closing the grand cycle in perfect balance.

Q: (L) So it is necessary to have a pathway of service to

   self in order for the pathway of service to others to

   exist?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And those who are in the quorum and the illuminati ...

A: Blends in middle.

Q: (L) So it is necessary to have the darkness in order to

   have the light...

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And it is necessary to have the Lizzies in order to

   have the Cassiopaeans...

A: Close.

Q: (L) And both groups evolved through the Masonic

   organizations..

A: Freemasonry is human reflection in physical of these

   processes.

Q: (L) Okay, thank you very much.  I think that is all for

   tonight.

A: Good Night.

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Q: (L) I have been reading recently about the shrine at

   Lourdes where the Virgin Mary supposedly appeared to

   Bernadette Soubirous...

A: Energy focusing center.

Q: (L) What kind of energy is focused there?

A: Positive due to consistent prayer patternings.

Q: (L) Okay, what appeared to Bernadette?

A: Imaging energy consciousness wave.

Q: (L) Was this image out of her own mind?

A: Close.

Q: (L) The healings that take place...

A: Because of the concentration of positive energy.

Q: (L) What or who has been causing the apparitions of the

   Virgin Mary at Conyers, Georgia?

A: Deceptive field.

Q: (L) What energy is behind this?

A: Lizards.

Q: (L) Why?

A: Confusion campaign part of bigger picture and plan.

Q: (L) What is the bigger picture and plan?

A: Conquest.

Q: (L) How will that aid their conquest?

A: By dispersing knowledge.

Q: (L) Dispersing as in breaking apart or scattering?

A: Spreading thin.  Confusion does this.  You are being

   bombarded with confusion in this era.

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Q: (L) I would like to know what is the specific mode of time

   travel?

A: Complex.

Q: (L) Well, just give us a clue here?

A: Transdimensional transfer utilizing electromagnetic

   adjustment of atomic structure to alter speed of time

   cycle convergence.

Q: (L) Who or what are the individuals called "Men in Black"?

A: Lizard projections.

Q: (T) Does that mean that they are just projecting an image

   of a being?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) The MIBS are not real, then, in our physical terms?

A: Partly correct.  You do not understand technology but we

   will describe it if you like.

Q: (L) We like.  Please describe this.

A: Okay.  Get ready.  First we must explain further time

   "travel" because the two concepts are closely related.

   The first step is to artificially induce an

   electromagnetic field.  This opens the door between

   dimensions of reality.  Next, thoughts must be channelled

   by participant in order to access reality bonding channel.

   They must then focus the energy to the proper dimensional

   bridge.  The electrons must be arranged in correct

   frequency wave.  Then the triage must be sent through

   realm "curtain" in order to balance perceptions at all

   density levels.

Q: (L) Information in the event that has to be balanced or

   taken into consideration as to importance so that the

   program runs correctly.  Is this the correct

   interpretation of triage as you have used it?

A: Sort of.  Triage is as follows: 1. Matter, 2. Energy, 3.

   Perception of reality.  That is it folks.

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Q: (L) Can you tell us about this recent volcanic eruption?

   What was the cause?

A: "Heating up" of earth.

Q: (L) What is causing it to heat up?

A: Vibrational frequency changes.

Q: (L) What is the source of these vibrational frequency

   changes?

A: Oncoming wave as we have told you before.

Q: (L) This oncoming wave, is this a wave which is so large

   or so vast that its effects are felt many years in advance

   of its absolute arrival point?

A: All waves in nature have a "contract" phase.

Q: (L) Does that mean like just before a wave comes up on

   shore it kind of sucks everything out?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So we are in the sucking back phase [demonstrates with

   hand motion and sound effects.]

A: Cute analogy.

Q: (L) Back in 1981 and 1982, my daughter A__ frequently saw

   something outside her window that she described as an

   alligator, and she would wake up screaming and we would

   get up and, on one occasion we saw what seemed to be a

   figure standing in a corner by the closet.  The whole

   series of events ended up with my having a dream in which

   I confronted a dragon...

A: Lizard.

Q: (L) What were they doing at that time?

A: Scoping.

Q: (L) What did they discover from their scoping?

A: Potential abductees.

Q: (L) And did they abduct anyone at that time?

A: No.

Q: (L) Why didn't they?

A: You stopped it.

Q: (L) How did I stop it?

A: Knowledge is rooted in awareness.

Q: (L) So, my awareness is what stopped it?

A: Close.

Q: (L) When I had the dream about doing battle with the

   dragon, was that just a dream, an astral event, or an

   actual interaction with the Lizzies?

A: All three.

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Q: (L)  The other night we were talking about the "Mark of

   Cain" and I lost part of the tape.  I would like to go

   back over that a little bit more at this time.  What was

   the true event behind the story of the "Mark of Cain?"

A: Advent of jealousy.

Q: (L) What occurred to allow jealousy to enter into human

   interaction?

A: Lizard takeover.

Q: (L) Wasn't the Lizard takeover an event that occurred at

   the time of the fall of Eden?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was this story of Cain and Abel part of that takeover?

A: Symbolism of story.

Q: (L) This was symbolic of the Lizzie takeover, the advent

   of jealousy, and the attitude of brother against brother,

   is that correct?

A: Partly.  The mark of Cain means the "jealousy factor" of

   change facilitated by Lizard takeover of earth's

   vibrational frequency.  Knot on spine is physical residue

   of DNA restriction deliberately added by Lizards. See?

Q: (L) Okay, Jan is going to move her hand up my back and you

   tell her when to stop at the "knot".

A: Okay.

Q: (L) You mean the occipital ridge?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was the configuration of the spine and skull

   prior to this addition?

A: Spine had no ridge there.  Jealousy emanates from there,

   you can even feel it.

Q: (L) Do any of these emotions that we have talked about

   that were generated by DNA breakdown, were any of these

   related to what Carl Sagan discusses when he talks about

   the "Reptilian Brain"?

A: In a roundabout way.

Q: (L) Okay, at the time this "Mark of Cain" came about, were

   there other humans on the planet that did not have this

   configuration?

A: It was added to all simultaneously.

Q: (L) How did they physically go about performing this act?

   What was the mechanism of this event, the nuts and bolts

   of it?

A: Are you ready?  DNA core is as yet undiscovered enzyme

   relating to carbon.  Light waves were used to cancel the

   first ten factors of DNA by burning them off.  At that

   point, a number of physical changes took place including

   knot at top of spine.  Each of these is equally reflected

   in the ethereal.

Q: (L) Is that all?

A: No.  But, do you need more?

Q: (L) Well, the question I do have is, how many people were

   there on the planet and did they have to take each one and

   do this individually?

A: Whoa.

Q: (L) How many people?

A: 6 billion.

Q: (T) That's 500 million more than there are now.

A: No, 200 million.

Q: (L) Okay, there were this many people on the planet, how

   did they effect this change on all of them?

A: Light wave alteration.

Q: (L) And light waves, actual light waves, affect DNA?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) What was the origin of the light waves?

A: Our center.

Q: (L) What is your center?

A: Our realm. STO.

Q: (L) So, how did the Lizzies use the light from the Service

to Others realm...

A: They used sophisticated technology to interrupt light

   frequency waves.

Q: (L) Well, what I am getting out of this that you are

   saying from what you are not saying is that it was almost

   like,... well, was there a battle and you guys lost?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this the same battle that the Pleiadeans talk

   about?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Not to go off on a tangent, but I have only come into

   this recently, you are the Cassiopaeans?

A: Yes.

Q: (T)  Are you also the Pleiadeans?

A: No.

Q: (T)  Are you connected to the Pleiadeans?

A: Yes and so are others.

Q: (T)  You are all the family of light?

A: Yes.  Exactly.  You have been "doing your homework".

Q: (T) I'm trying to.  Now, another force in what we term as

   the past, defeated you and used the power of the light in

   order to alter us in different ways, is this correct?  A:

   Yes.  Now understand this:  It is all part of natural

   grand cycle.

Q: (L) If this is all a part of a natural grand cycle, and

   correct me if I am wrong here, it almost seems as if you

   guys, the "good guys", and the other "bad" guys, that you

   just really kind of go at it just for fun, is that true?

A: No.

Q: (L) But you say it is a natural thing or part of a natural

   grand cycle.  Is this natural grand cycle just part of the

   interaction between light and darkness which just simply

   must be?

A: Yes.  We are at "front line" of universe's natural system

   of balance.  That is where one rises to before reaching

   total union of "The One".  6th level.

Q: (L) Do you like being at 6th level?

A: Do you like being at 3rd level?

Q: (L) Frankly no, I don't.  (T) If you answer the question

   by asking the question, and we know that we are striving

   to reach higher, does this mean there are more levels

   above 6th level?

A: Yes. One.

Q: (L) Is that union with the one?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Now, the battle you had with the other side...

A: Are having.

Q: (T) This battle goes on... do you have the light power

   back?

A: Never lost it,  you did.

Q: (T) Okay, I guess that for us the Lizzies are the main

   force even though they have others on their side...

A: Yes.

Q: (T) They took our light, not yours?

A: Not against you.  Currently in union with you.

Q: (T) So we are but one battle in the universe in an

   overall, ongoing struggle?

A: Yes.  Balance is natural.  Remember, it's all just lessons

   in the grand cycle.

Q: (L) I am really curious... when you guys and the Lizzies

   "go to it",  what do you do?  I mean, you obviously don't

   shoot guns at each other and you don't have tanks...

A: Too complicated for you to possibly understand because you

   are not at 4th level yet.

Q: (J) When you are fighting, is it any way at all possible

   for us to detect the battle?

A: First: We don't "fight."  Second, yes; it's nature as in

   meteorology and earth changes.

Q: (T) Your form of confrontation takes the form of physical

   changes in the atmosphere and environment of the planet?

A: And in space.

Q: (T) But that is how we detect it?  The more activity, the

   more conflict is going on?

A: Remember, we are the light.   They are the dark.  We are

   both high level thought forms reflected at all levels of

   reality.

Q: (T)  So, what we perceive, then, is what comes through to

   third density which is not what we would perceive if we

   were looking at it from 4th or 5th or 6th.

A: Yes.

Q: (T)  We are talking 4th density to 3rd density.  Is this

   what Hoagland is referring to  when he talks about the

   tetrahedral form he has detected from the Martian

   structures he has been studying that he postulated...

A: Yes.  This is a bridge to 4th density.

Q: (L) Isn't it a little unfair for you guys, at 6th level,

   to take on the Lizzies at only 4th level?

A: The "Lizzies" are the 4th level representatives of the

   forces of the darkness not the 6th level, and you are 3rd

   level representatives.

Q: (L) Is there a 6th level representative of the forces of

   darkness?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And what is this 6th level representative known as, or

   called, or look like or whatever?

A: Orion in your "neighborhood."

Q: (L) The Orion's are 6th level STS beings?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are they like you, thought forms?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they ever appear in physical matter?

A: Can.

Q: (L) And they are the driving force that controls the

    Lizzies?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Is there some intermediary between the 6th level

   Orions and the 4th level Lizzies, such as a 5th level

   force or being?

A: 5th level is contemplation zone for both "sides".

Q: (L) Does that mean that at the contemplation level that

   there is no activity?  (J) Is it like a "time out?" A:

   Close.  Balancer.

Q: (L) Is there a 3rd level representative of the forces of

   the light?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who or what are they?

A: Don't exist on your planet.

Q: (L) Do they have a planet of their own?

A: Have quadrillions of them.

Q: (L) Well, this is beginning to sound like we are in pretty

   bad shape here.  This is like the Siberia of the universe

   as Gurdjieff said.

A: The Universe is infinitely huge.

Q: (L) If there are planets where there are 3 D beings who

   are STS oriented, in other words, in a physical body, do

   they look something like us?

A: You are STS oriented.  Did you really mean to say STO?

Q: (T) Is there a 3D race in this universe that is STO?

A: Yes.  Already stated thus.

Q: (L) If there are planets with STO beings...

A: Some look like you.

Q: (L) What is life like on that sort of place?  (T) They are

   not going to tell us that.  That is something that we are

   going to have to develop to find out.

A: Exactly.

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A: Open.  For you to decide.  Listen: Revelations follow.

   Now would be a good "time" for you folks to begin to

   reexamine some of the extremely popular "Earth Changes"

   prophecies.  Why, you ask.  Because, remember, you are

   third density beings, so real prophecies are being

   presented to you in terms you will understand, I.E.

   physical realm, I.E. Earth changes.  This "may" be

   symbolism.  Would most students of the subject understand

   if prophecies were told directly in fourth density terms?

Q: (L)  Is this comparable to my idea about dream symbolism.

   For example, the dream I had about the curling cloud which

   I saw in a distance and knew it was death dealing and I

   interpreted it to be a tornado, but it was, in fact, a

   dream of the Challenger disaster.  I understood it to be a

   tornado, but in fact, what I saw was what I got, a death

   dealing force in the sky, a vortex, in the distance.  I

   guess my dream was a fourth density representation but I

   tried to interpret it in terms I was familiar with.  Is

   this what you mean?

A: Close.  But it is easy for most to get bogged down by

   interpreting  prophecies in literal terms.

Q: (L) Is there more information you plan to deliver on this

   subject?

A: Okay.

Q: (L)  Let me ask a quick one.  Did the Gulf Breeze Six, as

   they are called, who were supposedly receiving information

   via the Ouija board, did they receive prophetic

   information of some sort?

A: Yes.

Q: And, from what source did they receive this information?

A: Mixed.

Q: (L) Was their information accurate?

A: Mixed.

Q: (L) Why were they, their board, their transcripts and so

   forth confiscated?

A: Paranoia.

Q: (L) In terms of these Earth Changes, Edgar Cayce is one of

   the most famous prognosticators of recent note, a large

   number of the prophecies he made seemingly were erroneous

   in terms of their fulfillment.  For example, he prophesied

   that Atlantis would rise in 1969, but it did not though

   certain structures were discovered off the coast of Bimini

   which are thought by many to be remnants of Atlantis.

   These did, apparently, emerge from the sand at that time.

A: Example of one form of symbolism.

Q: (L) Well, in terms of this symbolism, could this be

   applied to the remarks you made about the two little boys

   who were missing in South Carolina.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And the symbolism was that you were reading the event

   from 3rd density into sixth density terms and then

   transmitting it back into 3rd, and while the ideation was

   correct, the exact specifics, in 3rd density terms, were

   slightly askew.  Is that what we are dealing with here?

A: 99.9 per cent would not understand that concept.  Most are

   always looking for literal translations of data.  Analogy

   is novice who attends art gallery, looks at abstract

   painting and says "I don't get it."

Q: (L) Well, let's not denigrate literal translations or at

   least attempts to get things into literal terms.  I like

   realistic art work. I am a realist in my art preferences.

   I want trees to look like trees and people to have only

   two arms and legs.  Therefore, I also like some

   literalness in my prognostications.

A: Some is okay, but, beware or else "California falls into

   the ocean" will always be interpreted as California

   falling into the ocean.

Q: [General uproar]  (F) Wait a minute, what was the

   question? (L) I just said I liked literalness in my

   prophecies.  (F) Oh, I know what they are saying.  People

   believe that California is just going to go splat and that

   Phoenix is going to be on the seacoast, never mind that

   it's at 1800 feet elevation, it's just going to drop down

   to sea level, or the sea level is going to rise, but it's

   not going to affect Virginia Beach even though that's at

   sea level.  I mean... somehow Phoenix is just going to

   drop down and none of the buildings are going to be

   damaged, even though its going to fall 1800 feet...  (T)

   Slowly.  It's going to settle.  (F) Slowly?  It would have

   to be so slowly it's unbelievable how slowly it would have

   to be. (T)  It's been settling for the last five million

   years, we've got a ways to go in the next year and a half!

   (F) Right!  That's my point.  (T) In other words, when

   people like Scallion and Sun Bear and others say

   California is going to fall into the ocean, they are not

   saying that the whole state, right along the border is

   going to fall into the ocean, they are using the term

   California to indicate that the ocean ledge along the

   fault line has a probability of breaking off and sinking

   on the water side, because it is a major fracture.  We

   understand that that is not literal.  Are you telling us

   that there is more involved here as far as the way we are

   hearing what these predictions say?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Are we understanding what you are saying?

A: Some.

Q: (T) So, when we talk about California falling into the

   ocean, we are not talking about the whole state literally

   falling into the ocean?

A: In any case, even if it does, how long will it take to do

   this?

Q: (LM) It could take three minutes or three hundred years.

   (T) Yes.  That is "open" as you would say.

A: Yes. But most of your prophets think it is not open.

Q: (J) Yeah, because they think they have the only line on

   it. (T) Okay. So they are thinking in the terms that one

   minute California will be there and a minute and a half

   later it will be all gone. Is this what you are saying?

A: Or similar.

Q: (T) So, when we are talking: "California will fall into

   the ocean, which is just the analogy we are using, we are

   talking about, as far as earth changes, is the possibility

   that several seismic events along the fault line, which no

   one really knows the extent of...

A: Or it all may be symbolic of something else.

Q: (L) Such as? (J) All the fruitcakes in California are all

   going to go off the deep end together. (L) Symbolic of

   what?

A: Up to you to examine and learn.

Q: (L) Now, wait a minute here!  That's like sending us out

   to translate a book in Latin without even giving us a

   Latin dictionary.

A: No it is not.  We asked you to consider a reexamination.

Q: (L) You have told us through this source, that there is a

   cluster of comets connected in some interactive way with

   our solar system, and that this cluster of comets comes

   into the plane of the ecliptic every 3600 years.  Is this

   correct?

A: Yes.  But, this time it is riding realm border wave to 4th

   level, where all realities are different.

Q: (L) Okay, so the cluster of comets is riding the realm

   border wave.  Does this mean that when it comes into the

   solar system, that its effect on the solar system, or the

   planets within the solar system, (Jan or us), may or may

   not be mitigated by the fact of this transition?  Is this

   a mitigating factor?

A: Will be mitigated.

Q: (T) Is this what the Star Trek movie, "Generations" is

   telling us?

A: Possible.

Q: (T) Are you or someone in the Federation influencing the

   writers of that program?

A: Open.

Q: (L) Does any of this mean that the earth changes that have

   been predicted, may not, in fact, occur in physical

   reality as we understand it?

A: You betcha.

Q: (L) Does this mean that all of this running around and

   hopping and jumping to go here and go there and do this

   and do that is...

A: That is strictly 3rd level thinking.

Q: (L) Now, if that is 3rd level thinking, and if a lot of

   these things are symbolic, I am assuming they are symbolic

   of movement or changes in energy.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, if these changes in energy occur does this mean

   that the population of the planet are, perhaps, in groups

   or special masses of groups, are they defined as the

   energies that are changing in these descriptions of events

   and happenings of great cataclysm.  Is it like a cataclysm

   of the soul on an individual and or collective basis?

A: Close.

Q: (L) When the energy changes to 4th density, and you have

   already told us that people who are moving to 4th density

   when the transition occurs, that they will move into 4th

   density, go through some kind of rejuvenation process,

   grow new teeth, or whatever, what happens to those people

   who are not moving to 4th density, and who

   are totally unaware of it?   Are they taken along on the

   wave by,  in other words, piggy-backed by the ones who are

   aware and already changing in frequency, or are they going

   to be somewhere else doing something else?

A: Step by step.

Q: (T) In other words, we are looking at the fact that what's

   coming this time is a wave that's going to allow the human

   race to move to 4th density?

A: And the planet and your entire sector of space/time.

Q: (T) Is that what this whole plan is about, then, if I may

   be so bold as to include all of us here in this.  We, of

   the beings of light who have come here into human form, to

   anchor the frequency, is this what we are anchoring it

   for, for this wave, so that when it comes enough of us

   will be ready, the frequency will be set, so that the

   change in the planet can take place as it has been

   planned?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) When this happens, will we piggy-back all those who

   are still unaware?

A: Open.

Q: (T) Okay, when the people are talking about the earth

   changes, when they talk in literal terms about the

   survivors, and those who are not going to survive, and the

   destruction and so forth and so on, in 3rd, 4th, 5th level

   reality we are not talking about the destruction of the

   planet on 3rd level physical terms, or the loss of 90 per

   cent of the population on the 3rd level because they died,

   but because they are going to move to 4th level?

A: Whoa!  You are getting "warm."

Q: (T) Okay.  So, we are anchoring this.  So, when they talk

   about 90 per cent of the population not surviving, it is

   not that they are going to die, but that they are going to

   transform.  We are going to go up a level.  This is what

   the whole light thing is all about?

A: Or another possibility is that the physical cataclysms

   will occur only for those "left behind" on the remaining

   3rd level density earth.

Q: (T) Okay, what you are saying, then, is that we are

   anchoring the frequency, so that when the wave comes, we

   move to 4th level density as many people as possible, in

   order to break the hold the "Dark T-shirts" have got on

   this planet, those who remain behind will not have enough

   energy left for the "Dark T-shirts" to bother with the

   planet any longer.  There will be less of them so the

   planet will be able to refresh and they will be able to

   move on in their lessons without interference?

A: Close.

Q: (L) At this point of dimensional transition, is what we

   are doing, anchoring a frequency, are we creating a sort

   of "super string" network that will literally create

   another earth in 4th density, which will then exist in 4th

   density, and the old 3rd density earth -- almost like the

   splitting of a one celled organism, only in this splitting

   one half of it moves into another dimension and is

   energized and quite literally created by the anchoring

   frequency, while the old one remains and experiences 3rd

   density reality?

A: Step by step.

Q: (L) Are we anchoring frequency to create a split?

A: One developing conduit.

Q: (L) We are developing a conduit?

A: Yes.  One.

Q: (J) How many conduits do we need?

A: Open.

Q: (T) Is this conduit going to allow those who remain behind

   to be able to move to 4th density easier when they are

   ready?

A: No.

Q: (T) What is the conduit for?

A: You and those who will follow you.

Q: (T) Oh, this is for those of us who will move to 4th

   density.  We will move through and they will follow us

   through the conduit. (J) Oh, others who are ready?

A: Your group here tonight.

Q: (L) Does this mean we will have followers or just us here

   now?

A: Open. Up to you.

Q: (L)  This conduit.  Is this a conduit through which an

   entire planet will transition?

A: You are one.  There are others.

Q: (L) There are other planets...

A: No. Conduit.

Q: We are one conduit and there are conduits...

A: No.  Developing at this point.

Q: (J) So, at this point we are developing a conduit?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) There are other groups on this planet developing their

   own conduits?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) These are conduits for us to move to 4th density in?

A: Knowledge is the key to developing a conduit.

Q: (T) I am working on the assumption that all of us here are

   part of the family of light, is this true?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) And we have been drawn together in order to develop

   this conduit from where we are?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Are there others in this area?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Are they supposed to join with us or are they working

   on their own?

A: Open.

Q: (T) Okay, so it is up in the air as to whether we join

   with them, they join with us, or we all work

   independently.

A: It is up to how much publicity you manage to get.

Q: (T) Do we want publicity on this?

A: Open.

Q: (L) Would it help us?

A: Open.

Q: (T) We're developing a conduit to move us from 3rd density

   to 4th density.  Once we have moved through the conduit

   does that mean we have completed what we came here to do,

   and that is anchor the frequency?

A: Partly.

Q: (T) Is the conduit kind of like an escape hatch for us?

A: Close.

Q: (L)  Let me get this straight.  When we move through this

   conduit,  are the other...

A: You will be on the 4th level earth as opposed to 3rd level

   earth.

Q: (L) What I am trying to get here, once again, old

   practical Laura, is trying to get a handle on practical

   terms here.  Does this mean that a 4th density earth and a

   3rd density earth will coexist side by side...

A: Not side by side, totally different realms.

Q: (L) Do these realms interpenetrate one another but in

   different dimensions...

A: Close.

Q: (L) So, in other words, a being from say, 6th density,

   could look at this planet we call the earth and see it

   spinning through space and see several dimensions of

   earth, and yet the point of space/time occupation is the

   same, in other words, simultaneous.  (J) They can look

   down but we can't look up.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, in other words, while all of this cataclysmic

   activity is happening on the 3rd dimensional earth, we

   will be just on our 4th dimensional earth and this sort of

   thing won't be there, and we won't see the 3rd dimensional

   people and they won't see us because we will be in

   different densities which are not "en rapport", so to

   speak?

A: You understand concept, now you must decide if it is

   factual.

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Q: (L) Are the 6th density Orions, also known as Transient

   Passengers, are they the same TPs that have been referred

   to as the ones who genetically engineered us or put us

   here?

A: Close. They are Wave riders.

Q: (L) Are those groups that ride the wave, is riding the

   wave part of the definition of Transient Passengers?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they like to ride this wave?

A: Is it "fun" for you to live on earth?

Q: (L) Well, I like living on earth a great deal, but I don't

   like pain and suffering, and I don't like man's inhumanity

   to man and I don't like to see other people suffer.

A: Do you live on earth for amusement?

Q: (L) I would like to live on Earth for amusement but I

   haven't had a whole heck of a lot of laughs since I have

   been here this time.  I would like to have a life on the

   planet where things were pleasant...

A: You misunderstood.

Q: (L) I see what you are saying.  That's where they live

   because that's where they live.

A: Yes.

Q: (F) In other words, did you choose to live on Earth

   because you bought a ticket?

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Q: (L) In talking about the new level of being after

   transition to 4th density, will this be something like

   what is described in the book "Celestine Prophecy?"

A: Close.

Q: (L) Is the carbon 14 dating process fairly accurate, if

   not, what is its major weakness?

A: To an extent.

Q: (L) What is its major weakness?

A: Same as yours.

Q: (L) Which is?

A: "Time" does not exist.

Q: (L) When was the last time a realm border crossed as far

   as the earth is concerned?

A: As you measure, on Earth, 309,000 years ago.

Q: (L) What does this wave consist of in terms of energy?

A: Feeling.

Q: (L) This wave is feeling?  It is a wave of emotion?

A: Hyperkinetic sensate.

Q: (L) What does that mean?

A: All.

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Q: (L) Okay.  How many times has the wave come and involved

   the earth as we know it?

A: Infinite number.

Q: (L) I would like to know if the Shroud of Turin was ever

   wrapped around Jesus.

A: No.

Q: (L) Was it wrapped around somebody who was crucified?

A: No.

Q: (L) How was it made?

A: Wrapped around Roman worker.

Q: (L) What caused the image on the shroud?

A: Body oils, hormones and other physiological chemicals.

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Q: (L) Is there any possibility that the information we get

   through this source is STS oriented?

A: Yes.  Always possibility.

Q: (L) I would like to know what is the definition of, and

   would you describe for us, a dimensional curtain?

A: Self-explanatory.  Think.

Q: (L) When we are talking about dimensional curtains we are

   talking about divisions at the same level of density, is

   that correct?

A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Can dimensional curtains be between dimensions at the

   same level of density?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are dimensional curtains also something that occurs

   between levels of density?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, a dimensional curtain is a point at which some

   sort of change takes place... what causes this change?

A: Nature.

Q: (L) In specific terms of the engineering of it, what

   defines this change?

A: Experience.

Q: (L) Is it in any way related to atomic or quantum physics

   or the movement of atoms?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay.  An atom is in 3rd density.  What distinguishes

   it from an atom in 4th density?

A: Reality.

Q: (L) What distinguishes one realm from another?

A: Assumptions.

Q: (L) Okay, what you assume or expect is what you perceive

   about that atom depending upon which reality you are in,

   is that correct?

A: Close.

Q: (L) What determines your assumptions?

A: Experience.

Q: (L) My experience of atoms is that they congregate in such

   a way as to form solid matter...

A: Every thing that exists is merely a lesson.

Q: (L) Okay, so once we have learned certain lessons, as in

   experience of certain things, then our assumptions change?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, is this wave that is coming our direction going

   to give us an experience that is going to change our

   assumptions?

A: Catch 22: One half is that you have to change your

   assumptions in order to experience the wave in a positive

   way.

Q: (L) And what does this wave consist of in absolute terms?

A: Realm border.

Q: (L) Is that realm border as in a cut-off point between one

   reality and another?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is that realm border as in dimensional curtain?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So the planet earth is going to pass through a

   dimensional curtain?

A: Or an earth.  All is merely a lesson, and nothing, repeat

   nothing, more.

Q: (L) Well, my experience with lessons has been that they

   are generally painful.  Is this realm border crossing, or

   this merging experience going to be what we, or I, in the

   3rd density, would perceive as painful?

A: Wait and see.

Q: (V) Is the realm border 3rd density?

A: Have answered; stop and contemplate.

Q: (L) What exactly are crop circles and how are they formed?

   I know we have asked about crop circles before, but I

   would like to know the specific mechanism by which they

   are formed?

A: Not issue, but energy vortex.

Q: (L) Does this energy vortex arise from within the earth

   itself?

A: No.

Q: (L) Where does this energy vortex issue from?

A: Here.  Sixth density.

Q: (L) Do you want to give us more on the wave, or realm

   curtain?

A: No, not at this time.  You have enough for now.

   Goodnight.

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Q: (L) I want to ask again for the benefit of Terry and Jan,

   what or who were the beings seen by D__ M__ in her

   hypnotic regression the other night?

A: Her essence.

Q: (L) Were these in any way physical beings on the earth we

   occupy in space/time from where we are at this moment?

A: No.

Q: (L) This happened in a so-called alternate reality?

A: Is still.

Q: (L) So, in some alternate reality, D__ is a preying mantis

   being eating little children?

A: And so are you.  And all others.

Q: (L) This is an essence of what?

A: Her being.

Q: (L) Are these aspects of our being coming to earth as part

   of the realm border crossing?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are all of us going to have to face these aspects of

   ourselves as other beings?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are there other parts of us in all realms doing other

   things at this moment?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And how is this going to be affected by the realm

   border crossing?

A: Will merge.

Q: (L) Do we need to do extensive hypnosis to bring these

   aspects of ourselves up and deal with these things a

   little at a time?

A: Will happen involuntarily.  Will be like a thermonuclear

   blast.  Message follows:  See pattern.  Orion, Pleiades,

   Arcturas, Cassiopaea; check distances from earth; progress

   locator for wave combined with earth references of space

   time.  For you to figure out.  Cross reference channelled

   messages, printing dates and location.  We are where we

   are.

Q: (L) What do you mean you are where you are?

A: Cross reference Time and distance.

Q: (L) What book do we need to cross reference?

A: Any star chart and Marciniak, Arcturas Channel, Orion

   literature and Us.  We speak from "crest" of wave, now,

   where are we?

Q: (L) Is this a riddle?

A: From, not of.

Q: (L) You speak from the crest of the wave? (T) Are you

   riding the wave?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) You said in another reading that you were 6 thousand

   miles...

A: Window of transmission.

Q: (L) We are certainly hoping that you are going to make all

   of this plain and clear...

A: It is.

Q: (L)  Well, can you help us poor 2 strand DNA creatures to

    understand this?

A: How far away is Cassiopaea?

Q: (L) Do we need specific distances?

A: General is okay.

Q: (L) So, if we just find the general distances... and does

   each of these star clusters represent a general area of

   the wave?

A: Each represents locator in space time.  You can judge

   speed and ETA by cross referencing distance with

   publishing dates and these messages from us.

Q: (L) I got it!  You mean that YOU are the Arcturians, the

   Pleiadians, and now you are the "Cassiopaeans" because you

   "are where you are"!  And you are riding the wave.  Is

   this wave a straight line connecting all these

   constellations?

A: Circuitous or cyclical route.

Q: (L) So, is it like a spiral?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So we really need to set up a map so we can draw it?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) When we speak from Orion we are "Orions".  When from

   Pleiades, we are "Pleiadian", and so on.

Q: (L) So, all of these channelled books you have mentioned

   are coming from the same basic source, through different

   channels, that they are able to connect with because of

   their different positions in space time and preparation

   level of the channels, is that correct?

A: Close.  We have given you a Wave crest locator.  We are

   from where we are and speak.  Get it?

Q: (L) You are the wave crest?

A: We are Marciniak's Pleiadians.  We are where we are.

Q: (T) So, you are not really Cassiopaeans from the

   Constellation Cassiopia?

A: We are Transient Passengers.

Q: (T) So, when the wave reaches earth and you are

   transmitting to somebody else out there you will represent

   yourselves as the "Terrans?"

Q: When wave reaches earth, we merge with you.

A: (L) When you were at Orion, did you merge with the Orions?

A: Not on same frequency for realm border crossing.

Q: (L) What effect did the wave have on the Orion sector?

A: None.  Already at 4th density level.

Q: (L) Where did the wave originate?

A: Did not.

Q: (L) Has it always been cycling through the universe?

A: Close.

Q: (T) Okay, you are riding on the crest of this wave in 6th

   density, is this true?

A: Yes.  We are you in 6th density.

Q: (T) You are we, that is me Terry, Laura, Jan and Freddie?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are you alternate selves extending into higher

   densities?

A: At your current reference point in space time, we are you

   in the future.

Q: (T) We are your destiny?

A: And vice versa.

Q: (L) You are not, by any chance, one of those weird ant or

   preying mantis beings are you?

A: Yes and no.

Q: (T) You are just another part of ourselves?  You, us, the

   Lizards, the ants, the grays, the trees...

A: We are your whole self as you/we are in 6th density.

Q: (T) So, what we are working to become is You?  You are us?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) So, when we move to 4th density and become whole with

   ourselves, we will know you also for a short time?  A: Not

   whole yet when at 4th density.

Q: (T) But in order to move to 4th density...

A: Closer.

Q: (T) We, us, in this room, are closer than others are?

A: No.  Closer when at 4th density.

Q: (L) When S__ was under hypnosis she described seeing a

   fleet of space ships "riding a wave"  and this unnerved

   her.  She felt this wave was a fearful, invasion-type

   thing.  Was this you and your wave she was perceiving?

A: Wave is transport mode.

Q: (L) Is that transport mode for many beings?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are you coming to invade us?

A: No, merge.

Q: (L) Are others coming with the intention of invading us?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, when you merge with us, are you going to empower

   us to resist and defend ourselves?

A: Wave is "crowded."

Q: (T) So, everybody out in the whole universe who want a

   piece of the earth action are on this wave?

A: At realm border crossing.

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Q: (T) You talk about both STO and STS.  Yet you tell us that

   we need to learn to be STO.  Why is there a difference

   between what we have to do and what you are doing?

A: STO is balance because you serve self through others.

Q: (T) You have said a couple of times that you are STS by

   being STO. Is this not true?

A: Yes.  Already answered.

Q: (T) Kind of like: what goes around, comes around?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Is STO a means to an end for STS?

A: No.  STO is balance.  STS is imbalance.

Q: (T) How can you be STS through STO if STS is imbalance?

A: STO flows outward and touches all including point of

   origin, STS flows inward and touches only origin point.

Q: (T) Well, they refer in the material that I am reading

   through, that they are STS through STO.  (L) They serve

   self BY serving others.  (T) Is that what they mean?  (L)

   Yeah. (T) Is that what we're supposed to do, serve

   ourselves by serving others? (T) Yeah! Because what goes

   around, comes around.  If you serve others then you get

   things back.  (F) Because when you serve yourself, all

   there is  is an infinite number of individuals serving

   self. (T) There is no energy exchange, no synergy within

   the group; there is no exchange. (F) Everything moves

   inward.  (T) There is no sharing, no growth, there is no

   nothing.  (F) No interconnecting. (T) Right!  There is no

   learning.  (L) In terms of major STS, this may or may not

   be related, could you tell us the nature of a Black Hole?]

A: Grand Scale STS.

Q: (L) Is it like a being that has achieved such a level of

   STS that it has literally imploded in on itself in some

   way?  A: Close analogy.

Q: (T) Possibly an entire civilization of STS?

A: No.

Q: (L) Well, maybe a civilization can't do it because that

   implies working together.  It must need to be an

   individual being.

A: Black Holes are a natural force reflection of Free Will

   consciousness pattern of STS.  Notice that Black Holes are

   located at center of spiral energy forces, all else

   radiates outward.

Q: (L) Now, you say "spiral" energy forces, and you also have

   said that this wave is a spiral.  Is the central point of

   this wave that is spiraling, a black hole?

A: No.

Q: (L) Is it a radiating wave?

A: All in creation is just that: a radiating wave.

Q: (L) Where does the energy go that gets sucked into a black

   hole?

A: Inward to total nonexistance.

Q: (L) Well, if a black hole continues to suck stuff in, is

   it possible that it would eventually suck in the entire

   creation?

A: No.

Q: (L) Why is that?

A: Universe is all encompassing.  Black holes are final

   destination of all STS energy.

Q: (F) So, does this mean that we, or anyone else who is

   classified as STS, remains on said path, that we will

   eventually end up in a Black Hole?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Well, that is pleasant.  And what happens to energy

   that is "total non-existence"?

A: Total non-existance balances total existence.  Guess what

   is total existence?

Q: (L) Well, is it kind of like a balancing force?

A: "God."

Q: (T) Are we talking about the creator god as in the

   Pleiadians?

A: Not Pleiadians.  Prime Creator.

Q: (T) What is the difference between the Prime Creator and

   "God?"

A: None.  As long as you exist, you are of the Prime Creator.

Q: (L) Now, this stuff that goes into Black Holes, that goes

   into non-existence, is that, then, not part of the Prime

   Creator?

A: Correct.

Q: (L) How can Prime Creator lose any part of him or itself?

A: Prime Creator does not "lose" anything.

Q: (L) Well, then, how would you describe this energy that

   was in existence and then is no longer in existence

   because it has become or gone into a Black Hole?

A: Reflection is regenerated at level 1.

Q: (L) So, this energy goes into a Black Hole and... does it

   come out on the other side?

A: No.

Q: (L) Does it become like a primal atom?

A: No.

Q: (T) Does it go back into the cycle?

A: No. Reflection regenerates as primal atoms.

Q: (L) So, this energy that is sucked into the Black Holes...

   what (T) When we put out energy as positive or negative

   energy, and there are beings on other levels that feed on

   this energy, is this true?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Okay, and you said that the Lizzies feed on the

   negative energy?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Who feeds on the positive energy?

A: You do.

Q: (T) How do we feed on the positive energy?

A: Progression toward union with the one, I.E. level 7.

Q: (L) In other words, you fuel your own generator instead of

   fueling someone else's.  (T) You are at level 6, what do

   you feed on?

A: You have the wrong concept.  We give to others and receive

   from others of the STO.  We feed each other.

Q: (L) So, by feeding each other you move forward and grow

   but those of the STS path do not feed each other so must

   feed off of others.  (T) Now, you are talking to us now.

   This is considered STO?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) We are providing energy for the channel also, does

   that provide you with energy?

A: No.

Q: (F) You are not keeping up with the program, Terry.  (L)

   What do you want from us?

A: We don't want when pure STO.  We came because YOU wanted.

   But that is STS until you share with others.

Q: (L) So, it is necessary that we share this information?

A: Up to you, it is a free will choice.

Q: (L) Is there some risk to ourselves by sharing this

   information?

A: At some level, but there is "risk" to all things.

Q: (T) I have a question: where do you get all your cute

   little cliches and sayings?

A: We access the human condition.

Q: (L) In one of my Fate magazines over there I read a story

   about a fellow who discovered an enormous structure in a

   cave when he was wounded and hiding there during the war.

   It was in Europe somewhere.  I am visualizing the image.

   What was this thing this man found in this cave?

A: Magnesium wall made by Lizard beings.  Constructed 309448

   years ago.  It was part of a base.  It was buried during

   cataclysms.

Q: (L) What is buried on Oak Island?

A: Regenerator.

Q: (L)  What is a regenerator?

A: Remolecularizer.

 

That's enough for now, I think.  The parts scattered throughout about the

"wave" should give you an idea of what they are trying to convey.  There is

such a HUGE cosmic background thing going on that they talk about that it is

difficult to grasp it all.

 

But, one always needs to remember that even the C's say that the "corruption"

factor can vary according to who was present and moods and all that, not to

mention what Ark calls the "signal to noise" ratio.

 

At one point, when queried, C's said that overall purity of the material was

about 72 percent up to that point. 

 

Laura

 

 

From:                    Laura Knight-Jadczyk <lark2@ozline.net>

To:                        Vincent & Darlene <abooks@ac.net>

Subject:                (Fwd) Re: Fulcanelli

Send reply to:        lark2@ozline.net

Date sent:             Wed, 19 May 1999 10:30:10 -0400

 

Hi,

I guess that I could be considered paranoid to think that "someone" does not

want me to have this book..... and, as we all know: "paranoia will destroy ya!"

and all that... BUT, it IS peculiar!!!

Laura

------- Forwarded Message Follows -------

 

Date sent:               Tue, 18 May 1999 17:04:11 -0500

Organization:           Insight Metaphysical Bookstore

To:               lark1@ozline.net

Subject:                   Re: Fulcanelli

 

Dear Arkadiusz,

     We need to provide an update regarding your desire to order the

book "Fulcanelli: Master Alchemist".  We regret to inform you that the

publisher now tells us that publication has been delayed for an

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     We have never experienced a publisher like this before.  It is a

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then they said May.  Each time, there were just a few details that were

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     Now, however, they tell us they have delayed publishing the book for

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another book that has also been unavailable for 1-2 years.  We called and

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     We will continue to keep the book on backorder for you if you

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     We certainly might be incorrect with our speculation, but

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See also:

Vincent Bridges Tells His Own Story

Vincent Bridges AKA "Dr. Strange"
New Age Grifter or COINTELPRO?

Vincent Bridges AKA "Dr. Strange"
Psychotherapist? Or Hacker and Thief?

Is Truth Defamatory?

The COINTELPRO Files: Vincent Bridges and Co. (photographic exhibit)

The Bridges - Jadczyk Correspondence

The Weidner - Jadczyk Correspondence

 

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